TC Talks EP22 Backwards Compatibility 00:00:04 - 00:05:01 Thus start great. Start Brilliant there's already doesn't. We know what we're doing. We know exactly what we do exactly what we do and we planned it. Buffer everybody was tuning in. This is a different voice from the park everybody. Also, this is different Pearson speaking live. Yes. It's the other STU along with two J. Yes. He is. St was unable this evening. So he's a s to. Attempt to go live. This is GonNa be fun. This is going to be fun I really realize how twitched channel also doesn't have TV talks on it. Apartment building up. The old s fine. You can change on the fly in the. Flight let's do lot. In, this. So. Really we all. To, yes. This is. Twenty two did you know episodes? It's no bad. On this we're GonNa talk about backwards compatibility I have no idea where that is. Going to be an interesting conversation, I think because you obviously come from A. Background. Yes. You. Own a PC and everything will always work calm. The PC. There's always a way to get something work, and if we really really wanted to play, there's always a way a nice. That's always been a foreign concept to me when people like you can't play this last Jiang online. What. So something we're going to have a little talk about But I still we start in the welcome on how you doing this week Jay. I'm well, it's been I mean it's Tuesday and I already feel like I've had a long week. And it's one of those weeks the again. But I've been building some Lego. Will you must spend time. I've just finished the raise a crest from demand, Laurien? ooh Nice. Little the child and mandate figures and things I I'm also now building the Nez the MOU the Nintendo set the NEZ and it's not Old School crtv targeting ducks. Cool. That has settled. Dice I've seen online and I've not watched it yet of not built this bill the set yet but someone on. Youtube why follow? Has Built, a working Nez into the Nez Legos some young looking. To watching that once I'm done. While actually go to work in. Nasr inside the Lego. Yeah. So it's now a Lego Nez is an actual national as as billiard. Dedication. To that which is Kinda cool. It is I'm looking forward to watching it. I've heard there are lots of Easter eggs in the LEGO sets I wanted to to build it I and and. Make sure I didn't see anything. Weird. Yeah. I didn't want to see and. Watch that video I think. I'll make stomach sense. You don't spoil anything at all. No. Awesome. Sure. How us. Yeah no, but. After work dance after work I let she went from this piece downstairs. And Pink Kitchen Yeah I know hate Peyton it is absolutely meaning. So yeah but I needed to be done. We had a new roof and the build Loofah went through the roof and had patch it up so But yeah the. Yeah quite on the game foot meals myself is week basic the kings we I'm just addicted to it absolutely addicted to. Thanks, Game Pass. Game Pass to save me before one pound on that one. 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Year ago in December on on I think a lot of people thought it might have been ought to same time at that point this didn't they Say He's one of the West kept secrets, but it's nice to finally. See have a price against their have a rough idea of what it can do and. I think that the big difference between xbox and Sony Right now. Is. Microsoft is very much focusing on. xbox being a service yes said this. Game Pass you've got. Everything on different machines, kind of giving you options. So. This is like a diet series Ex. Yeah. It kinda does all the same stuff. But doesn't have as much power behind it. So I think that's cool. Actually. Yeah I think you my appeal to the. The KAJ is like like my mate these kids and sometimes, it can't always get on play the games you know so if he wants to. Sneak peak to the next year. It kind of seems like that kind of concert where maybe people can't spend a Lotta time on it. But then he got a game pass service, which are they don't have to worry before out forty, fifty, sixty quid for the game they describe me download it. 00:10:06 - 00:15:01 Which seems Nice inconvenient on X. Cloud as well. Internet for that. which is kind of go on to to the as well game on Scorpio. Welcome. Welcome as you see, we Yeah. Hi, docket. This week's TC talk. Should be I. IT might be a bit short this week. We'll see what happens. Yes see we'll. See what happens? Yes apparently I am changed the game. My Word I am nightmare. One. Please yes. So The new series s has also been revealed to be in in England in UK. Two hundred and fifty pounds. Complex thought was actually lower than the America place. Yeah usually it's three hundred pounds. Yes. Fifty pounds to get. A NEXT GEN capable machine. Yeah. Okay. It's not going to be four K. and all that business, but it's still going to deliver. According to according to that that was he how hundred twenty frames per second it's still going to have four K. capabilities is a generally I think for probably HD screen. Screen. And of course, as we've said. It's digital own these say you're going to want to strap game pass on to it. Expected I've they do the monthly deal is like twenty five pounds. Console Suffolk. It do you think could be tied in a d? Think. Because I'll be would if it did So so Mike soft have. A. I can't remember what they call the sending cold xbox lacks astle Mike. Access or something like that. where, yeah that sounds familiar. You pay. Monthly. You Get xbox live game pass, and that's going towards the hardware. So I'd imagine. This being two? Hundred Fifty Quaid It's probably quite low monthly payment or or shorter periods. I've never really looked at silver. Is Making. The next generation. Incredibly accessible for. Well that was my thing if they made a service along with a game pass with our council. I could see more people willing to pick that up because they probably don't mind maybe twenty thirty pound coming out with account per month more than one chunk but. and yeah, I think it just gives it to a broad range of people just wanted to pick up and play. I think. It is appealing as a second reunion as well. I think what really aiming for here Is Oh you've got ps five or you've got switched show you game mainly on PC will this in another room or know as a secondary you a Play you all of these games kind well Kinda like how St Inbox Kinda wanted to do in a weird way. With I've got an Nvidia Shield and you kinda Khandu that with steam with esteem link but you need you're. On though, but I did see though the game pass is rumored to come to the shield anyway which. Amazing. Is via x cloud or is not that is undecided I expect to be X. Cloud I expect because the machine probably won't play games themselves. Maybe if a stream for my option like steam steam for my pc Dhabi Kinda cool. You know. True. And I think Ex Cloud is going to be a big focus series as well because one of the one of the things that they revealed which was. Of a surprise is the fact, it only has five hundred, twelve gigabytes of storage. Digital only machine dusk. Not, a law considering like Anna called, for example, was two, hundred, twelve gig. Yeah off your. Own Way. And I imagine. It's not five hundred twelve. It will have. On their retina, how much is expected to take up? And then of course you've got saves which are there on the cloud as well you generally have the money machine. If you take him recordings and screen shots and things like that. Again. Isn't it? Excuse, it is interesting. 00:15:01 - 00:20:02 You kind of cost plug in a USB external driver never releasing. Did. That actually today a foam seagate. Doing. I think. Yeah. Yeah I mean looks Kinda cool. External drives. You can plug anything. Yeah. Like an old western digital they do as well. Yeah. and. Then they've got this special SSD that they've developed which. You just bang in. And it's like it's like the memory cards, but it's necessity a kind of. Weird. I'm still not sure if I like it. See much they taught. Yeah I'll just say, hi, squatty the chat. Welcome hello. Yeah it. Feels like if you are going to go down the route of expanded storage, Yours Ulaby more than a casual adopt point is a game a Shouli. I suppose though if you've already got an external hard drive, so he could be all. y'All. X ONE X or one s now? and. You want to upgrade. You just plug in games of that yet. That's actually quite chew I didn't think. I didn't think a lot. About point out. Its pros and cons I think comes. I think it'll be interesting to see how it plays out because. If I was to put money on it. I think in a year maybe two years you'll have the xbox series s to terror attention and. I think we'd options in a way like kind of A. Maybe they do something like especially when like those plans maybe he? No. Yeah. yes. anymore news anyone news magazine has been don't a huge news against woodall waiting on the next Gen's a lot of people say. Yeah. As, per the articles yes. Playstation. Sony and Microsoft. Playing chicken. Basically still I even Microsoft has come out with this I don't think it was entirely intentional. And, the this machine doesn't particularly completely playstation five because this is a lower SPEC Mitch Yay known even the digital version I. Don't think we would even here. Again's fom what we've seen of SPEC wise. scope dot is a very good point I forgot all about even put a news article about this owners of which a three on the current. Gen. We'll get a free upgrade, the Nexgen on news we'll get. Up Quite as well. That's actually kind of cool of. CD project where. Yeah I, love it. I never get a name why ray around evolve excess like. Yeah yeah that's actually really good actually. Yeah. So you're getting. You know frame. Rate Resolution. Ray Tracing these grace for Free Activists Louie. Freeh. Freebie 'cause they also actually did. A little article as well about cyberpunk they not charging extra to go for next Gen just look this is the price. Does it. S Fe. Why do you want to pay an extra ten pound chests for the? For the next Gen like it's it's for. Yes Poverty I. I, it's literally the pouches and comment one line to sell. It's going to be disarming. Not I feel. Like, you'd be so I. Feel like it's that charge ten dollars or ten pound away we would. Like A. How I mean. To say, Hey, always just chat she's answer WIFI issues. But welcome a little. Taken over. So yeah, I mean. If if you look at what I never gonNA get onto this in a minute if you look at what xbox doing. Or your games again. So. You kind of by default have a working version of which three. Yeah. So is just ask in that respect it's more like a PC is I was just going to see. skype him do exactly the same pc it was it was just listening earn update are. There we go? It's all there. And that's kind of while the the jump is going to be, isn't it a little bit? Yeah to to. To call out. 00:20:02 - 00:25:02 Say Call of. Duty. As. A Long conversation. That blocking. Just being able to apply a patch. Just to make more money off it because they know especially if they dropped the day one. They know is going to be limited supply perhaps in new game. So people are going to be willing to go our I'll do it. Just. Beautiful I won- The next on the get him in buzz. You know. It's not really naughty but yes, I think that's all the news way I think I go much else. So that means. It's. It is quite a quite before it is I feel like it's going to be a lot of news coming up. From ten to November on woods. Rally hopefully hopefully. Actually. Actually Very. Perhaps. Next week would be nice. Thanks. I we I'm going to special effects but. Feature. So, this week we're talking about backwards compatibility. To me. It's Kind of weird phone concept and I. Can Never I kinda count understand why people will? Want to as a feature for their next Gen console but measor a PC game. If I really wanted to play something, you could just go do it like there's no you know even if there's a gain our point, you can go find if you look hard enough you know to stuff like that. So I know you jay is. Also to give your the game, you have everything you know you. You OUGHTA game and so for you backwards compiled what what does that mean to you? So. This is where in my opinion Mike Soft. Miles ahead of the competition. and. If you look historically I, think I think that's often a problem. Is. You look historically. And you could play ps one games on a PS two. You could play ps one PS two games on the launch ps three but then they removed the parts that do. Beyond? You could play I. Think. Gamecube Games in a week my yeah. But as a general. Backwards compatibility is not standard. It's not a standard for compensate. I guess is harder because of the architecture changes almost. Yeah and even the media. If you look at Nintendo, the Nez cartridges would not like the snacks. And then they moved onto, you know the end sixty four cartridges and then into the tiny little. Disks, and then the full. Say there are actual physical limitations to what you can do that in a way. I think ever since. Probably. The DVD media. Things have settled down a bit. I know it's not entirely true intendo and because the switch has little cartridges, I guess they go to the are due. Online presence. Certainly with Ayla NASA snazzy because the online stuff. So they go to the big screen, the format. And but as a general rule. You, and not in a position now where You. Buy. A. Consultant. And it runs bracing that you used to. That's just not the think until. Kind of remember what year is about three or four years ago maybe longer Mike soft came out and said, we're adding backwards compatibility to the xbox one bite. And they added I think at the time the any anti two hundred also Hundred a games to it. It wasn't anything mega hundred, three, sixty games on the xbox one. And it was a huge announcement. I think they kind of stole the show at e three. And then ever since then they've grown and grown and they've added to the original xbox now. And it's become one of the main selling points for the XBOX series X. Yes sx EXA. They need to work on the name of these consoles we ought to get confused. So now, suddenly you by the XBOX series X. And if you're already in Xbox game you libraries just. Dislike. You. You've got a PC. So they are slowly going down now, almost almost a two worlds collide in, which is not a bad thing. 00:25:04 - 00:30:07 So us and I think. In a way I think it's key at digital. Yes. Yeah. So on PC naturally. I mean physical media for does still exist does it I was in as to the other day and access to a physical copy of full of duty. Sweet thing it was. Off this is so because like las how my heart and Dry was twenty ten actually removed it in two, thousand ten. So I haven't had like you've just gone steamy downloaded going to different things you don't. You don't even think about anymore. which yeah? And I think Brent the xbox one with the PS four. Digital's grown by. On those gym machines compared to say three sixty in PS three, you had the option don't get me wrong. I. Think it really took off until. Maybe the tail end of those machines. The XBOX. One S four is. A bit in most places who say so is not so bad download that big game a few hours. Yeah. And I think that because you have to pay for on line head. Being with the Free Thus I. Always Forget about Lego to play to pay online on console which. Mike blue the lines little bit more now with a game pass for the xbox while is all neck. So people might not feel like the paying two separate subscription service. Yeah. Maybe we'll see then. Yeah I think canal. What strikes me as odd and I'm surprised more people offered by this. But with Sony's messaging, it's not clear yet for the gold. Exactly. What backwards compatibility looks like Reno and via works we know there's at least one hundred games that work. but we don't fully know the details yet I'm sure we'll find out more when they eventually have the next show. But I would personally when I get my ps five will be very annoyed for my canes on on it. You. kind of invested in the ecosystem almost point. I guess it's just like avenue phone and all of a sudden all the APPS and stuff you have a bill logo I guess. Is Starting and It's never really been a big deal before because it wasn't the no. Is. A for for consoles is more of a modern concept and you know we didn't really think twice about it jumping from snakes to end sixty four. No about business. But now there's no excuse you the architectures, the same I was GonNa say now exit is six since last year this coming Jen so in theory. It should be fine in theory you. Have the same logging guess even on your on switch yard the same say you dse even even intend to a So. On the Xbox side you've got the xbox series ex you get launch you log into your account. And everything? I guess a Lotta people could might be more appealed to look at that. But. It feels now like Mike Sof Stance. Is I think they want to get rid of generation? You kind of feel like we windows as well a little bit. This is we understand it kind of just Windows she's a new big update but you gotta you know. So he kind of had not kind of like there's no more numbers and no thing it's an xbox. This like it does feel like, yes, days. Windows had the windows when they They did like a Big Three D.. Update didn't, they. Vista where they. Known I. Think was on Windows Ten when the OH? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So yes. That was like a weed year. In reality might be the new S, O or something by day. But now I guess because it's just they just go. Here's a patch is a big patch you that kind of thing which is nice because then you don't have to go for my pc do this do. The usual stuff. It appears the Microsoft doing similar to console I think. Yeah, and then on the playstation camp you've got. The PS five coming out. You'll be using your same logging paying for the same subscription you've been paying for for however many years. And at this time, it's unclear what's going to be waiting for Solos Games you accumulate and they might be anything in. 00:30:08 - 00:35:05 Potentially. You might have nothing in there. You know if you play some of the more niche weird. Hidden. Away. Gyms. I think that adopting what Mike soft date a few years back in that collection will grow and grow. So I think long term I. Doubt you've anything to worry about. Is Small probably the first year or two of the PS five you think well. Can I get rid of my ps? Peaceful. Do I need to machines now on? All these Games I've still on appears three. Yet. You can have it. You don't have to build a big shelf unit to put them all on. So, it's not side like backwards compatibility now. Is Almost As it's becoming more. Prevalent in the game industry. If. Microsoft is getting rid of generations. It doesn't mean anything anymore because you're not backwards compatible, it's just you. accept. The same as when I open up steam, it's my game collectors since two, thousand and four. Like that that her I actually had a thing of day was. Count since two thousand four is like I muscle half life two and I. Like. I didn't even think about it. I guess what? Microsoft China in for. Yes and you've also said Yes. Yeah. You by. Providing you're on the same platform, you know you buy a new iphone or new android phone. You might just. And so you had all these old APPS If you go from Samson to Samson, there's an APP that specially copies everything i. Do even my last pixel did it was like, Oh, you go this up this up this APP to water. Yes. It is to do even the wallpaper my ringtones everything was the same. Is Amazing. And I think. That's what Microsoft say. I, think. In three or four years time you'll have you know the series. Series, x pro or series AOL. Local it. And it will again have already games they'll just be faster technology behind it. And I think that's It it's. It's easier for it. Iraqi. Almost kind of defines console in a way that. People just want to plug in play and crack on. I Mike Microsoft axiom was defining by doing. Almost you know I I I know historically, we've had a constantly be re buying them all again but actually it's the ease of use of picking up unplugging it. You know. Which I get? An probably on the opposite end the is light you say, Nintendo who seem To actively avoid game. Play anything that's. Not. Their services rather strange like even just to a point where you can play your meets on your switch pecan use voice fire, the handset. Someone, pointed out to me the other day and even. Even Click to this thing but on a on an xbox pad on a on a playstation pack, I'm GonNA show it to the camera you have three millimeter Jeff Yep. You can plug a headset in allows you to listen to the game. Isn't the game. Voice Chat yes. Say. I've got the pro controller, the high end control for the CY. One. Doesn't have an advantage. I. Think. Never even realized I think does it. Say. Is. I tell you what I have done a mainly because I have my switch on my monitors anyway I got to steal series artists Avin. Input audio input, and then you could go from your switch to the second, not wireless headphones, but it's via my PC I. Want. Ten. Easier. But It's just just kind of sums. Nintendo. They just different. I will will leave him in there you know. And then They prove it's possible. They prove that. They can achieve it because you know you've got this new Marietta's. Was Cold. Coming Super Super Three d all styles every old. 00:35:07 - 00:40:03 And that has Mario Sixty four on it, and we'll see a galaxy galaxy was from the we. Yes. We what's the other ones sunshine? She S it. Yes. Game it's US three. Jen's right there. Yeah. You've proven that on switch you can run in sixty four games game cube games. and. Things, which is yet you're not you know. Putting them anywhere like. Nintendo fans I think as a general rule and and I'm Kinda guilty of this would buy a game again. Just to play it. So he's not backwards compatibility per se a giving people ally play game I. Think I might be wrong but I think it's also limited time as well. Collection is both physical and digital. I got a weird feeling is a case I'm GONNA have to overlook put shoot. It is which I thought was even more bizarre considering its online to by. Debbie. Nothing quite says we need to make some money before fiscal year and then having March. Yeah, it's Bizarre it's just didn't Endo just lab do what they do. Do Do at this point. But for the rest I'm. Say. So in a way, the switch. Probably. I mean the. The NINTENDO. We think quizzes, of SIA, standout, successful them, but the switch is probably going to be the biggest. Success that has legs do, and then we'll continue to be successful not because of any gimmicks put more. As you've got the gimmick can sweet but you know it's console that a which even I've got I've even got one because I can just pick up, take it out with mean go sweetie convenient. And that probably in prime position to say. Like they've done with names like they don't Miss Nuance here is an N. sixty, four catalogue. You, pay US money the. As Lillian, clack on Gamecube Cadillac pace a bit more monthly the and you can vote on people pay because they won't it. So I know. We'd. And that would be. It would be a way they could bypass backwards compatibility. Because they not physically built. have an end sixty four Khatri into a switch but still give people. Die was old games that nostalgia. It's It's kind of a weird without because. You won't be able to I. Guess you continually own. Long's you subscribe to the service. Isn't a bad thing. I guess even if you switch games now I think did we you have digital game option? Think again. Yes that's At the virtual console back in the area where you can buy. Super Mario. It's a shame those can come to switch because you bought them once site. Okay. But maybe they learned maybe they'll do something we kind of Nice. In a way. I'm we re alone about this but Nintendo. Gain. Pass. Switch. And they you know bumped up the price for online because to be fed their own lines only like twenty two year. Awesome. Yeah. I actually for life you'll place a CD keys swears like nine quit the other day for twelve months it's like, wow. Cheap. based. They had a monthly sub. And said right at in Nancy snows and sixty four gamecube. Maybe even just back. If you can go. They would make yet they would. They will even if charged twenty a month last service. A thirty to be all sticky probably do it. This Because Nintendo is kind of a weird when it doesn't matter where you gain disrespects Nintendo it was just it's a weird like. Little, thing that we just like, yeah it's intended we're fine with you. What you want I think. They've almost and not by just I suppose they've never. Did I'm I'm probably GONNA get cold out on this, but they've never really sold out or done anything. Weird. The is anti damn. 00:40:03 - 00:45:05 They always just go. We've shoved a camera Marietta. You could play. On your. Decision to do what they WANNA do without bend into the People's Willow most they just go. Yeah I'm doing this now. A is. Right. You. Like lab. Oh, boy was interesting. That's cool. You bought she of cardboard and you can make all sorts rivet Nintendo sold people, cowboys I mean if in a winner i. mean. But they were kind of cool soy mini Jacks law she actually the cool table I could just for kids for lewd stuff as well with so good to see kids get involved just young kids are playing robarts. Piano is actually like it was kind. Cool. So. Yeah, they they have the they've got back s where they could genuinely make. All the money. Just seem so reluctant to do it, which is is obviously you've got technical limitations I know it's not as easy as. Opening an end sixty fall game and clicking save as. Switch. Yeah. But. You can't imagine that it's much well this not like you've revolutionizing. It's is warms out there. Are there tiny will emily does seem to work on. Most things you get a raspberry Pi Racha Pie, which is plays up to I, think it's playstation I. Pretty. Impressive. But it's small. You know. I'm sure if they give a Dev a few hours. A Games you know. They say Malaysia work on Fling really. So I think that's You know xbox of done it yet they they've cracked backwards compatibility to appoint. It will no longer be called backwards back. Because it doesn't make says playstation. I think getting that I think. They're a bit behind, but they're making the right noise in the right movement. With. Some exceptions. I don't know things. I don't think anybody knows anybody's game like so many feels like. You've played this over here. Now. You play the new stuff. It fears a liberal Abdus sometime, not all the time but sometimes i. Don't look dot. Now we used to do look at the new stuff we now do. Fears but sometimes times but. There's only so long and get away with that I. Think. Yeah I think that's got pros and yes. Yes. Just like anything else you know. Some people would argue on buying a playstation five, an care about anything else. I won't not USTA funny. Which? Is Fine but backwards, compatibility isn't going to detract from that. You don't have to play the oil. Stop. Give. I think especially if you know some you invest in. Their. hard-earned cash five, hundred quid safe. The next call was going to be the Ford One game. Will Not just GonNa just play just one game going to crack open a ps four, just put his plan UTECH. So we want to play that game. They got options until new come out until the next one. and. It's is going to be more of an impact at launch. I'm buying a PS fife. Most of the people I know won't be getting one launch. Beef I wanted to play a game with them at least I could yet you know with with the box or whatever. Again it's a bit hazy place and know. How that's GonNa work yet you know once they announced fair enough we'll have a bigger picture. So you know is purely based on on me speculating, of course. Is the anniversary event tomorrow isn't it? Of Plays Well Think. Again. I'm prompting get this wrong, but I think tomorrow. Marks the anniversary of the regional. stage. and. There's been rumors that that's when they event is. I think they've been too quiet because I would have expected to. Tune in tomorrow yes. Especially, if it's an anniversary event, you would've you to little more noise about it I'm sure if it was so. We'll have to see I, don't know if they. You know I'm not expert in marketing or anything by know if it would be wise to suddenly go. 00:45:06 - 00:50:03 The playstation five, the price is the date is all the stuff that's coming out. Here's what it. Without really sort of building. I mean I'll be happy if they do mind you though the buffet it just dropped it. Social media is GONNA go buzz. It might even more so than people expected it, I. Think especially like today with the experts so. And I think when you tease an event. People. Say expectations in their mind. It's going to be one hundred pounds. I, don't see like an option for the next playstation to be the cheapest series s Akon can't see the. But to be fair then I know it's a new market almost most I, feel. It's it star it. They basically designed for Game Pass I. saw like we'll see his basic Zyppah. Cloud as well. The digital ps five is just a PS five without the drive. Whereas the digital experts is lois spent. Yes. An entry level xbox say. It's quite hot compare what they do here. So. Like I said the only thing I think like I said this earlier, it's very similar to like steam box, but they were six, hundred, seven, hundred pound because basically a pc yet they were awful but then you go like I said earlier, the nvidia shield is this a little set top box. Or your media, but it's basically streaming from another source to play a game doesn't do it itself. I know that console will be able to do stuff itself as well which is good. There's almost a little bit high between that yet and actually complete. Games locally, which is kind of cool. Yeah. My understanding and again up. Wrong is it's the same CPU. Same Rams I fly nothing. It's just the GPU that's that's Loa. Yes I believe so too one. I've seen on the INTERWEBS earlier I. Believe you're why I believe we WANNA goes up as far as fourteen forty I believe yeah. Yeah. Can Cap upscale and stuff. So it is basically it is. Could a new a graphics chip is essentially the same taxes lost yeah. So. You buy that you get getting past you've all these compact games to the original xbox game pass or if you already have them. So, nice entry level is quick to you as quick for like kids ask for councillors for Christmas pants like two fifty year you can have that you. To spend five, hundred, two, fifty Karolyi Games off to by gate. Coup. It's actually takes a lot of boxes day. It'll take a lot of I. Think a new audience will come along. It will bring out the casuals I feel. I think it's a very like I say casualty in like two hours this week to play some games. I could just tune this on them play wherever ex cloud. On a new. Do you know I had the other day on a game dinning up I don't always have all launches I. Got Twelve loans is now on my pc for various different things. by didn't open one up for about two weeks. How to patch hour-long? Play something else. But then. I know people have it on games consoles as well. It's just a thing right now I think. Yeah I mean at least we console, you can put in A. Standby always on. Yes. I have mine. US. Probably quite nice. Out, hopped to have my running I, know anyone running away. To saw do that very no does not much point. I gotTA get half the electric bill every month Irv I kept on doing not just uptake games. But yeah. We've been going fifty minutes how long ago We had a lot to say about backwards compatibility walk. We say we'd like to Avalon Yeah. Yeah. Any other thoughts bacchus? Touched on everything. I, think I think. As I say. As it's becoming prevalent. It's almost becoming extinct. The same time by. A NAS yes. It just means you have a game collection that follows you around. Again I new stuff for ten years you know at least The one thing I know a lot of people like high like to buy physical disk do this to trade in. Honestly after probably a year ago, and now you probably will forget because the games hopefully. 00:50:04 - 00:54:17 Even game pass all the cheap. You know you might be able to pick up some bodies. I hope. Dasa gas ever snag I guess piece you more options to buy from different places. Where xbox I think they do sell stuff on stuff a key CDs sometimes. Capable not not not a level of Steph because usually almost everything on it except for like an epic but us nothing. So you hope maybe more stores might be open to this, which would help. But we should say, yeah, you can. In an original xbox disc. In the series and it will wow. Family includes physically if you've got the one with the dish. So he does include physical games as well. If if surf you've got I've got is still I think the ones I've got. Someone. Say if a chops copy physical disks don't. Few nights the older public class one that I've kept original xbox. Nice. The older public on disk. I can put that in my my one x that something to the TV or in the new series x and play nice the over. Is. My favorite. Gave Him all the time. Yes I played only on, but I used to work game in game time. which lacks box to What I was working in game not. Very. Yeah. It is one of my favorites the sequinned no was highly disappointed because on the PC, it missed chapters on Xbox and only recently on Stephen Fixed. So I was really annoyed with a sequel really annoyed. But. It said he is a hoarder. Yeah. Hold too but. I was actually looking I used to have a massive DVD and Bloop bloop Buick lecture on about a year before I moved ago it of almost everything except for like star was blue and DVD's. Hawks, you have no blue a player in the house for five years. I have nothing to play disco. Expo No. But yeah. I think that's it for this week. I think I'm not as good as students hopefully, still be back next week. But yes. If you listen to podcasts out whatever we are actually everywhere I'm not gonNA live seeing some weedy random place with being played on this week, which is amazing on I'll take. If your outburst thank you very much attuned in in. Please, tweet US any any comments? What's where if we said Steph? Wrong. Tell us we know we need to do and yes follow. Jay Follow me follow us all widow friendly. Even join no discord. Discord. Which yes. Twitch and for people is on the part literally just come to phone call to twitter Tom Carter Kate we got all our wings everywhere. Just come visit US say hi to talk to us even suggest our next podcast. ooh, that'd be kind of cool. Wouldn't it? A A speaks and is like you need to talk about this and we will not be cool. Along decent subject, of course. What was stews? 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