TC Talks EP21 Simulations 00:00:05 - 00:05:04 Good evening, good evening, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to another TV talks podcast. You have your usual suspects that plus one I'm going to say. We have a plus one. I mean, I don't know who brought the plus one month, but we are joined by one and only Jason as it says underneath his name, I would put his Twitter handle, but it's just way too long. I mean, I don't even want to contemplate adding it to be honest, big is massive, but my name or your Twitter name is massive still that bad. It's like if you maxed out all of the characters that you're allowed or Sunday. Anyway, we are joining us tonight on Tuesday the 1st of September. Happy Sim tember everybody. How are we are we are well hear you. Well, yes. I'm good. Thank God. I think good have a good holiday weekend. I my first dip into the streaming wolf like over a year actually. Yes. I know. We are already we have got a podcast full of announcements today off. Yes, and one of those announcements one at like there there will be one announcement missing that we can't announce yet will be or you know, so yeah. Yeah, I've been off how you been still not too bad as you go bank holiday weekend. The Sun was shining the weather is sweet here makes you want to move your dancing feet. Yeah. I read exactly so rocks for a reason. We're going to get a fine now. I'm sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, it will go to get his body's going to be muted now. So obviously as you age, As normal joined by J as well, you well, dude. Hello. Yeah. Smack also a good bank holiday. My normal job is in the finance sector So Bangkok days are very very welcome in my field. So I just had a nice extended weekend with the wife made some gains usual chilled out for a week and was good. It was good. Beautiful. Beautiful Jason. How was your weekend? I was good. I had the kids birthday parties and we played the fortnite Monopoly game the fortnite Monopoly game doesn't actually sound as bad as it found. No, no. No, it sounds just as bad as it stands. Now you have the I mean the game is actually shoot everyone and beat the last person standard. Increase it's actually quite clever concept departments. Fortnite. Does it start with 50 players know you could dance around your whole street just asking people like not not join plates off and like if you want to get 49 does it just not like doesn't start so I kick you back to the lobby. It's just stuck. Yeah, it's it just sits there but like the battle bus you can deploy of want on the Monopoly board at the beginning really, where did you deploy? Well, of course like part Lane whoever is Shirley that you can't buy it as soon as you land no wage. Nothing you have to move once. Yeah, cuz then it makes more sense to like Deploy on Parklane or Mayfair or something. Cuz then you get past you want to go with the idea is to be off. This one is the bicycle you collect all the different places around 4 at night and if someone lands on it, they lose hit points. So you start off with 1515 HP or whereas HealthPoint. Sorry and its first one to basically kill everyone else. Winner. Okay. I like a good idea. I mean, is it old? Is it old school locations? Are we talking, you know tilted Towers or Pass. I don't play the game. My kids enjoyed it. That's the main thing. He played the game on. Come on play fortnite Jesus. I mean, I don't anymore. You know, anyway, let's move on swiftly today. We are going to be talking about simulation games and I think it might surprise you at some of the games that we bring up. It might not home games. We enjoy. I'm sure there's going to be lots of guilty pleasures spoken about during this this this podcast. It's going to be a juicy podcast. I feel we're gonna get to know the team members a little bit off which can only be a good thing. Maybe but first as per usual, we will go to me the news. Let's see what's going on in the news today. What you got for us. We got a nice little list this week. The first one is epic vs. Apple juice. I haven't been well, I haven't been following this one as much as other people because one is Apple. Yeah, and I really couldn't care less about Apple and it took to do with fortnite. I believe we started off. 00:05:04 - 00:10:07 Yeah, not not exactly but funnily enough. I have been following it quite close. I think I think Jason Nash a mocked by his loved ones in a house. Yeah the the bit where it all started kicking off. Was because epic sneakily put in a patch on both Google and Apple's app stores to circumvent them down payment systems not to make more money. They put cheaper purchase options for consumers on to kind of show people things could be cheaper package, which was a very bad way of approaching it and they quite rightly got kicked off the app store and whatever they're called both app stores, which is fine, but then a stick obviously premeditated released all sorts of silly little anti Apple trailers and things they have issues with Google but it's slightly different because you can have faith, you know different apps or anyway. Yeah. Yeah, you can you can install whatever on an Android device and it's different stores and all that sort of business. There's there's a lot more to it. But the ultimate aim is they've Want to stop Google and apple charging 30% For purchases made on their stores the same sort of battle they've had with steam but I think I've done is they've, you know, it's quite a noble cause things to try and help all developers. Obviously, there's benefit to them, you know, that's not be naive but then they've gone about it in the worst possible way and they just look like absolute idiot home cuz actually went to court for the first books. They wanted to take everybody off who was using the Unreal Engine. Yes. Yeah apple went a bit heavy hand. They wed. Really? Yes. They wanted all along with Unreal Engine off the store using a towel effectively. They would have locked epics actual developer license, which means the Unreal Engine is no longer supported on iOS, which would that would be way more damage to Indie developers and things like that, but a judge I think the end of last week said no, it's just fought. Yeah, which I think's Fair. That's out there. Yeah. Yeah, I think removing fortnite was correct, you know epic knew what they would do in there. I don't think it surprised them given they had pre-rendered truism things to take the mick out of apple. They've had less of an argument with Google although they're fighting for the same thing simply because Google's a bit Freer with how you can download apps and there's different apps like we say, but yeah, I mean for for a long time wasn't it where Google you could only install fortnite if you found the APK something was for a long time. That's the thing there are options there but the ultimate premises Restricting Apple 2-1 app store and the fat Google and apple take 30% is madness because if you want to crack those markets, you know, if you're a dog lover he wants to you know have your phone on have you app on iPhone or Android you're losing 30% which is quite a hefty chunk to be fair. Yeah home. So I mean 30% isn't isn't anything to be sniffed at is it really I mean there's if you got told you got to take a 30% pay cut. yes, it's Hefty and and I think Is the fact it's set in stone as well. You know, it's a non-negotiable. This is how much you will be paying us if you want access to this market, so I kind of get it, you know, I think epic have a good deep down. There's a good cause they're you know, it's the benefit of more people but they of approached it in the wrong way temporarily gone. I mean, I am gone really heavy-handed with the retaliation but also epic just went They've gone very childish with it's very childish approach that they've adopted. Yeah, it's not good. It's not it's not good. It's just the thing. Is it really I mean ultimately it's a it's a billion dollar company phone and trillion-dollar company over a percentage, isn't it? That's that's what it boils down to its. Yeah, make believe numbers that us mere mortals can't comprehend. Really? Yeah. Yeah, but I do apologize. I do get it. I can understand the frustration that a lot of these developers must have but yeah, it's it's an interesting one see how it continues. I guess. We'll keep you up-to-date the other one as well a little bit of news. This is the one that caught my eye because it said PC and the title stuck could be really simple games to PC. 00:10:07 - 00:15:13 And so yes war or anything, but I think they realized there's a mark wage. Funny enough. Yeah, I understand exclusive exclusive find they made him cool, but after a year or so later, they've had they run on a console what why not trying to get more money from the Asian market. So when I think you guys would that would Horizon Dawn so arises zero Dawn d ROM to realize that yeah Horizon and I guess they realized that actually the People by this. I must have a death stranding as well. But I had same time though and Detroit become human, I think yes. Yes. Well heavy rain as well. That was a PS exclusive way back in the day Greg. Yeah. Do you know what the thing the thing this whole subject that makes me chuckle beyond belief is the the ridiculous Sony Fanboys that are like are so near your your backstabbing ass. It's like no no no, no Horizon. Zero Dawn was releasing three years ago on a game. Nothing. Yeah, you bought it three years ago. And now it's being shown to another audience. You're not you're not losing anything. Sony aren't taking anything away from you. They've basically released everything that they are going to for that game and then they're releasing it again on the PC. Why shouldn't you know, why should you get to play this? Imagine if Spider-Man came to PC and probably pick it up like I might even pay more than thirty pounds put it. Whoa, don't go there. All right, so long while we're talking like 31 32, would you imagine where the where the costume though? If it comes down Pacey, please come back on the podcast wearing a Spider-Man costume, right? I'm putting it down if Spider-Man comes to the PC. I will by Stu the costume to wear not be funny. I might just buy it for him anyway and get it delivered to his house wage. You know TC take over by Spider-Man. Yeah Halloween special. Yeah thing is that would you be able to get it down past your beard? I don't know. It'd be a big fluffy coming up the sides. Yeah, I've had the bikini trip. But yeah, you know, I don't think there's any issues at home with these games coming to to PC after they breed. I I think I would have a bit of an issue if they came out at the same time on PC do it Thursday night because I think they understand that because then they give so many there's a chance that people are buying the concert if they really want to buy it and they can push their sales away after year or two off. Yeah, but then, you know, I've just thought about actually it wouldn't matter because you don't own a PS4 or you're going to get a PS5. No, I'm not. No. So what is you buying it going to affect say if I didn't log? The PC and I was only getting PS5. What is you buying it going to affect me? How is how is Sonia allowing it to come up to a different as long as it's done come to Xbox. Yeah, you can understand that. I think we've we've discussed this before consoles vs. PC is a very hard thing to compare cuz they are despite being in the same market in terms of Games and Things took a very different markets as well. They attract different audiences and you know arguably a consoles a more casual way of playing cuz you just bang it under your TV you just load up a game and down on pieces of the multifunctional device that does all sorts and things like that. So do a day and date the biggest sort of money the biggest took these companies make is from software sales. Yeah, you know famously historically these companies have made losses on their Hardware that eventually turns to yeah eventually turn off. The Profit, you know is components get cheaper and all that business so Sony can only benefit from releasing day and date of the games on PC and people that like consoles and we'll have a PlayStation don't lose anything cuz they're still get their games on the PlayStation exactly what Xbox are doing. They're doing the same thing. I mean as you like to tell AJ Xbox is the service not the system. Yeah, it's slightly different because they've got things like Game Pass and they've got which I'd love to point out Microsoft. We love it. Yes absolutely loved it loved it the game class and yeah, they are a bit more of a service cuz some of their games only come to PC, you know, you've got Age of Empires on the way. You've got flight Sim that's just landed with his tactics will be coming to Xbox console assembly is tactics here at some point Ada Kings three, but another games are day and date like, you know gears phone number. 00:15:13 - 00:20:02 Landed on PC and Xbox at the same time, you know, the Halo is when that's out next year stuff like that. So or 2022. Yeah, whenever he comes out with infinite I think is the the date they're aiming for it whenever you come in out. I think you know, it's yeah Microsoft are very much more of a service with Xbox these days just because of the whole game pass and play anywhere and all that business, which I don't think is the root Sony would take but they can certainly hit more software sales. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Do us a mess up when you when you buy a physical copy of a PlayStation game. You'd have to take a little sticker off that says exclusive. I might cost him think it's just a console-exclusive. Yeah, it's all Xbox dozens. You know Halo will be an XBox exclusive home. Yes, welcome to steam but it will come on the Xbox. I mean it probably will but I'm pretty sure death stranding on the cases said console-exclusive. Yeah, they probably took it to say yeah, this is actually outside on the next bill space. This is actually something you put down. I have not seen a silver ongoing controversies on some pubs was charged upgrades card. For example you put on there. I don't know nothing about this most you're probably safe in the PC World the song. With the next-gen looming there's a lot of Publishers that are upping the price of games. So for example, and I only know that the US dollars cuz that's the ones that get reported to Call of Duty on the next-gen will be $70 for the basic game. Whereas on the current-gen it's $60. So if you want to actually get off whatever the next-gen brings, you know hundred twenty FPS and all that business you actually have to pay for the upgrade which is effectively them charging for a patch If we're honest wage charging for a pox even when they not even probably well according to obviously reports. I've seen the next generation of consoles. The game sizes are meant to be smaller because of the way that our our drives handle everything. So if anything you're paying for a portion of your download to be removed true, wow, if you think about it, I mean you're not going to church Yeah, and this is one of those benefits of PC because PC doesn't have Generations, you know, it's kind of linked to console Generations in essence that you know, once the console of a big leap the PC games tend to have a you know, fewer lower common denominators to code to so this would be the equivalents two of you at playing Call of Duty in 1080 buying a 4k monitor in discovering or we've got to pay ten quid to patch my game to run on my phone came on. It. It's especially when you've got so many developers that are coming out and saying look if you buy it on PS4 we will give you a free patch. Yeah to play it on next-gen wage. I think it's done that yet one. I mean Old Masters would have come out and basically said that you know your game, I don't think your game save go carries across but like you're publishing. Playgrounds courses get carried across but at the same time, you know, if you if you know that up front you're not you can't really be angry about losing progress. When you you could walk across the whole point is is that you are getting that free upgrade which I think it I mean, I mean Xbox of obviously they've they've put the bar out there when it comes to their home account. Remember the name. I think they call it it's just marketing fluff for you by the game once and it'll work on everything which yeah, just perfect your saves do carry over if you just go an old gen and a new gen console, you know, you can flick between them as if you're playing the same game opposite just changes the graphics get one just loves it should be I know we'll just look up the shit or really shit. Yeah basic so cyberpunks adopting the smart delivery method so you can start that game on a dead. Xbox One or a 1X? And then if you choose to upgrade you don't have to buy the game again your saves their you get better graphics. If you have bought that box and not sold your original and you can shove that in the spare room and just jump between them. 00:20:02 - 00:25:03 And just when you gain when you get kicked out into the spare room for whatever reason you've got some problems on the summer. Yeah. It's all about companies making money. How do you guys feel about the news about Square Enix and Marvel Avengers and all the all the characters? Haven't we don't we don't bring this up. We don't bring my truck with J by their own down. What if you done Jason? I'm hoping from Miranda. I'm just going to mute J for a minute, I feel from your yeah. I think it's a bit out of order that they've brought all of these different tiers of stuff is is effectively what we've said, For about every game has so many different special editions and you know limited edition special edition super special edition limited super special edition, you know, all of these different additions to the game. They've almost done that but whatever game you buy you are going to have a tiered system of of content, which yeah, I I wasn't going to be getting Avengers originally and I I always tease J saying, you know, I'm going to enjoy playing with Spider-Man on my PS4 and my my special edition Virgin Media outfits that my character has got to where yeah, and you know, he's actually put me off more by having all of these different tiers of battle passes and stuff because you think the problem you know, how many how many characters there at launch in that game, you know, and if you're if you're an avid fan you are going to buy them. Or pass for each of those characters. Yeah, because you won't because you love the games and stuff like that. So say you bought the super special edition of the game at whatever it was two hundred quid or whatever. So you got the game you got what 656 characters but launched I want to say 6 I think is can get six. Yeah, you know, that's another sixty quid in getting their battle passes to get you know, a purple trousers for holidays. Just Cosmetic in it, you know, but then you've got the other characters they're releasing. I think it is because you can't items that improve your stats don't you like like an RPG? It's just they don't I don't know if they're included in the bowel Parts. Okay, but the whole game as soon as they started announcing exclusive stuff and then all these weird corporate deals and stuff is a mess. It makes sense of service with subject. John fragmented fan base, you know, I can accept exclusive characters to two different consoles. I can accept that because it's business. I know you're all anti-consumer down what have you but it is business, you know, and and it's just one of those things but then bringing out all of these different tears and everything and have you seen the the latest debacle that's going around on the internet now, I am recording this around half past nine and apparently there are some issues with people that have bought the digital deluxe version that supposed to go live today. Haven't been able to because they have an either that it's the game's not gone live on their service or they haven't got their keys delivered from whoever they've pre-ordered it from home. Really so not only are all of these different tiers of stuff coming in. Now people that have bought the game can't play the game Home Depot to refunding you when I when I was looking at some of the the noise about the game people seem to be so so about I've seen like yeah, okay might be I might behave but ever since this whole debacle about it. I think people are actively avoid in this game a lot, especially on PC and Xbox. They've just gone now no Spider-Man sauce, play with spider - man. I have a PlayStation. I'm a I have a PS4 Pro. I've got an Xbox. I've got PC switch. Yep. And I'll be getting PS5 and stuff so I could buy it on Playstation, but I just don't want to when they're doing stuff like that cuz it is I just don't agree with it. But I think if we if we get a review code for it, I am I so 1 J to like review it cuz I think probably be the best reviews for ya on The Today. I played a Spider-Man. You can't play a Spider-Man if you're on the Xbox or PC, you know and yeah, imagine if XBox came out with like a Game Pass exclusive character that you could family get if you had a Game Pass ideas. 00:25:05 - 00:30:03 Yeah. Yeah. We love you. We love you Microsoft. Send us free codes. Yes, but yeah, how how's that for the news? That's pretty good. Yeah, and any more any more big news recently. I mean, there's there's one big big big news that's recently happened today, isn't it? Yeah, you know what? I mean? I mean, it's only Nvidia finally shown off properly there. Is it pronounced unpair and pair back? Okay. I'm paying it's not like a French nanny. Let's hope and so Opeth. But yeah, the the Nvidia 30 series has officially been announced after weeks and weeks what it seems like speculation of prices and specifications and things like that. But the I think the best thing to do is to say that the 38 e is cheaper than a 2080ti off but gives you twice the performance. Yeah, 70's coming out at about the performance of a 20 atti. Yeah. Yeah, which is also a price point as well the price of the founders edition 38. E649. Yeah, and I'm looking at the 370 personally and that's 499. That's what that's for $9 though, isn't it off so that you know, even if that was pounds honest are still good. You know, that's really good for that. It's insane performance. Yeah, very impressive. I think they've Being very clever here where they've gone. We know what we're doing with this and we've made some pretty impressive Tech here. Let's flood the market with it make it so awful horrible so friendly, you know, if she were there last bunch of cars were getting quite close but not not too close. You know, they were getting close to like three year old Tech. Yeah. That's the reality. That's the reality of talking about here and well and videos imagine laughs just AMD have just got home. I did so the process of pocket and literally rolled over and like, you know, okay, you can take a little bellies and I think it is very good God. Yeah when AMD as well, I think all of their stuff is what's in the console. So the PS5 and the Xbox probably keeping an empty life. Well, yeah just goes off. They eighteen ninety percent of the processor Market worldwide AMD really? That's because you know, that's because it's so cheap to get AMD chipsets game consoles as well. Cuz PS4 our explore has got it to our they do a lot of service steps. So that's quite big but then I saw an interest that today after the announcement is 80% of graphics cards or Nvidia. Yeah. Yeah. We got a couple of money joined switch chats down and I've got call Colin move have joined the twitch charity house. But yeah, I am I am looking forward to finding out more about Zone tax offering into the GT Market. I like some crackers a company. I see Morrissey on my PCM are around every day. They seem to have an amazing customer support good. They just go seem to be good people off. If I could people yeah, just good people that I'm like I want to go a fast car from these guys. So that I'm I think I'm looking at this as to even though I've been an Asus fan. They've been poorer I believe on Thursday on the 20 Series. So yeah, so talk, you know. Yeah. I am I am waiting with bated breath for the Zotac amped prices off. Yet I would want an applicable to yes. Yeah, I mean even though the the is it called the Halo Trinity one? No, no, is that what they called it? Something like that? How you doing? Gina Volpe infinite? Yeah, that one doesn't come out for another couple of years. Yeah. I am. I am excited to say the least for me. 3:38 is the first one out isn't it off? Yes on the sunlight 16th of October or the 12th of October and then the 13 90s on the 24th something out of October and then the 3070 comes in. Sorry in September, sorry 12th of September 16th, September 24th of September and the 3070 comes phone know tae-bo. Yeah, I think it's just after my birthday as well. So when's your birthday 3rd of October 3rd or very nice very nice. 00:30:03 - 00:35:09 Very nice. It's my birthday. Is November happy for you. I would not all the soldiers u j but but yeah, but with that bombshell, let's let's move on to the features do it during the during the little little cutaway there with the sound effect that you guys can't hear, which is great because series is brilliant. Sign me up for voice acting. It does have a vocoder on it. But today we are talking about simulation games. Now we're not talking about Call of Duty as being a World War Simulator game because let's be honest. It's not we're talking about like the games that probably have simulator off the title cuz that's that's obvious what it is. You know, you've got like training Sim simulator flight Sim simulator Surgeon Simulator. I mean that is a very very accurate representation of what surgery is really like all I mean, I'm a person transplant with that one say Network sim life, you know, we are in a world I guess but even better you don't actually have to attach the brain you just plug it in and they went on to come out and come out with a battle pass for I just put yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We love battle pass. So I gave us we don't know about passes relocating passes. Very nice Merced. You're all old compared to me. I hope I'm not I probably am you know, which side you're butter spread it on bread is buttered on Sunshine. All right, Jason Jason oldest our slow like 22 mad for kids shows twenty two people kids. How old's your oldest? Shit might work out if you're in The Valleys, yes. Yes, definitely shower with your dad simulator. Now. We know what moves secret secret project is Jesus think I'll be getting that one. I've already got on my wish list of all the best. Yeah. It's a shoe concept. I tell us about your favorite simulators see no, this is where it gets big green. I don't know. Well almost every grade to you in it actually. Yeah, really not follow Frank Graham Brown but a good eye 6 simulator, I like stuff like and I know you might even say know stuff like City skylines where you simulate like a sippy and stuff. Yeah. To me is a sin. I agree. I agree that kind of like yeah Panic Club. Go to Coosa Tycoon. It's a it's a management system. Yes. Yes, that's probably more accurate. That's my type of suit. That's what I like that kind of stuff and I could spend hours and hours be like to spend ten hours building theme park. You know, it just happens. I mean I spent roughly that building a zoo. Yeah exactly, you know cause he could say it was a very good say paalam in the Lions escaped. That was not a very good zoo. Well, then there wasn't as much exciting Z the weather wasn't as much blood and gore as I expected one out and one of the lines weren't interested in the small children. Obviously a house with word and stop feeding him for a week just to like, you know, really ravaged him up now so but yeah, that's that's my home same I mean, I I know you go like a train Sims new trucks and what's the other car mechanics in there is, mechanic simulator here. Yeah mechanic simulator home now. He's you can you can build a PC to play PC Building simulator you can I want to see. On a thumb count website that the PC said it was on a PS4 blew my mind since he was about to say that seems ception. Yeah you wanted to be able to have like you say that way but yes. J. Hey, how's your feels on simulator games? I'm very similar actually to send you Malala needed that I do quit like every time there's a new fancy simulator that looks nice quiet flights in. 00:35:09 - 00:40:07 Yep. I'll always boot it up ramp up the graphics to as much as my PC can handle so in this case fly around a bit and go. Yeah. It looks right. I'll probably never touch it ever occur. I do the same every time there's a thoughts the Motocross games cuz you know simulation not the two semi for me personally. I don't mean Horizon. I mean the motor sport ones. Yeah. I mean that's that that's this whole new stupid sincaid genre. I think right it's just cars in it, but they look shinier and they go junk around and around so I gave birth. Again, I let them up. Looks nice. And then I never played them again. So I yeah, I do prefer the city. I played a lot of cities Skyline when they first landed had, you know Steam Workshop up putting all sorts of mods on there and I had all the mods we're turned into the UK. So it looks you look like the Welsh families, you know, like we all have a shit. I've driven through them not going off of random information interesting. Yeah, some of them upset quite good on there cuz you can you can get new districts even so you can actually expand the game beyond what the developers thought of and I quite like that I quite like those and then suck were Kia Sims. And where they don't take themselves too seriously, but they still have that level of management like Roller Coaster Tycoon and things which it can be silly but they're still quite good still fun pack. They do require that attention to detail with some of it. But yeah that sort of stuff is more my cup of tea. What was they did one recently where you colonize Mars surviving Survivor Mastermind TV Mars acid that was reading that's a tough. That's weird stuff. I did terribly it was it was did not survive Mars off the year twenty-twenty. I did not survive Mars black. Yeah, it looks fine. Honestly thought I thought was really good that gave that impression dead. After we're married trying to brush over but yeah, those sorts of games are more my cup of tea. Yes racing teams. I played a set of course run a friend set up with all the wheels off pedals and he's even the three little bit a handbrake. All of them. All of them is 3D printed his own hand breaks up and all sorts last night. Yeah. It's like driving a car in my car. I can do that. Whatever. I want here in HR drive a car in VR. So, you know I get the appeal I do get the appeal. I just find it. Quite frankly doing that. But yeah, the management wage is more interesting to make I want to have a big empty space and fill it with lots of stuff stuff simulator. Yeah, just just like building a city or perhaps I quite like the zoo ones like you've mentioned planet to do there. But the Jurassic world one. Yeah. I like it happened. It was a cool idea, you know, they haven't done with this done like moving out and games like that where it's like a movie out kind of game but you want like a proper moving simulator. So like if it was like this imagine like you've got box of your roommate J. You know, you got I'll get the bubble wrap. So you got go on the computer order the bubble wrap, you know, you got bubble wrap it now depending on how many rolls you put on obviously your views more but you're more likely to save. View items if they're more fragile than your box and that turns into like a bit of a Tetris style kind of game. They do something like this where you do up houses house flipper off terrible not fold effort you put into that game. You might have picked up a bloody paintbrush and actually done it for real and actually gone. Wow, look up actually took my house promised punched around two hours. Did you? I've got paint. God stated bloody reviewed at night. We didn't have to I didn't make you if I remember rightly the way we work at some cultures. I say this games available and people volunteered. The question is did you play house flipper with the full wheel and pedal setup and the tablet just improved it. 00:40:10 - 00:45:10 That would be amazing. Be quiet. They speak but play Dark Souls with the rock band. Drums isn't isn't Dark Souls like death simulator. Nice easy to do slash says Dark Souls is easy. Still got my full playthrough recorded or lovely good for you. Lost my train of thought then but yeah, so we got Dantanna's in chat good evening down. Who is this? Good-looking guy you replaced me with well is a Jesus song obvious long as as his label says they were like, I like to watch his back. Make sure you get enough topics him the labels. This is true. Actually. I do have a magical covered. It's full of just random bits. I've acquired over the years and it's very much Tetris but in the reels See I called I called out on somebody else's problems. When I open the door it all falls out home. I didn't know how you pronounce. His name is Jackson Janet Jackson. But yeah, I'm I'm a big fan of simulation games and obviously it's a good segue to obviously point out that this month on my streams on the channel will be simplified games only like four. So yeah. Yeah, like four guys full full guys and off Avengers. Yeah, and and yeah to be fair that is wind up Jason but like so so I'm a big fan of PC Building simulator, but it's really fun. It's just a monotonous game where you can just build a PC. Yes. I could build a PC in real life, but You just sit on your computer. Join me on Thursdays stream. If you listening to this live for train Sim world to where I will be taking to the London Underground wage specifically the bakerloo line. So yeah, it's I'm a big fan flightsim. I'm a big fan of flight Sim. I think it's beautiful. Yeah to be fair. I did load up flight Sim, you know thanks to Game Pass much love you baby wrapped up the graphics cuz that is a stunning game and then I flew over my house and it didn't rule at our house. Cuz obviously it's all procedurally generated. But this is a very impressive game to be fair to it. Yeah, and you know the thing I love about flights in the most is everything goes on in real time. Yes. So whether in fact even follow flight paths and and yeah real planes. Yeah, exactly. And when you see a plane coming in to land if you're in the certain airspace you start it's not live chatr but you start hearing like the the office Towers chapter two different airlines and stuff. Like if you're on the same frequency. So but it's not obviously it's not real like you're not listening to the people in the actual cockpit going Rodger niner niner we're coming in to land. We're heading up onto Runway 47, you know, you didn't mean that you hear Robert partnership about that kind of stuff that that kind of, you know, basically here Jason on the microphone. I wish I could last longer than five minutes playing that silly game. Hey, I'm glad you put playing that silly game. Then I had to adapt. Yeah, that's what that learned to adapt that game was brought to us by the people that made the game about the rat Apocalypse in France. It's not isn't it surprised me when you said that I was like you like you like but it's not the same game that you know a mystery went from that to coding the entire. Yeah, you know what we've done we've done France we've done rights. I reckon we're ready to take on the job. Old and they did just that. Yeah, I mean In fairness they didn't really do a lot. I mean Bing Maps do a lot of it. I think they did quite a bit but you know some game past so, you know, check it out if you got gamepad's one pound for your first month off on the on Microsoft Game Pass Game Pass for PC. I hasten to add. Yeah, I think we should do every time someone mentions game bass. We got have a shot. We would literally be ruined by the opening like ten minutes yet, especially if it's one of the upcoming podcast ideas that we have floating around in the in the office some culture office. 00:45:11 - 00:50:07 Which is really scored. Yes, the greater. Wonderful. This will come join. Yeah, come join. I would press my button but the bot is decided that he doesn't want to play wage cuz I've I've reactivated the cloud bot commands. I must say it has made you sound like a robot. Yeah. Well, I I thought I was just me really is it right now? Yes. I know. It was only I think when it was writing the text is fine. It stopped retreating C ROM needed to like see I've gotta say when it comes to some games. Obviously. I'm a little bit older than you guys open. My my first experience is some games was actually Sid Meier's Civilization secured one on the on the Atari St. Spent quite a while with my dad playing playing through that one as the Romans and smashing up on the catapults in two thousand a d and they've all got jab app. But Capital still somehow was beat them, which was amazing. And then we moved on top to bottom axis franchises. So we moved on to like obviously SimCity SimCity 2000 was amazing package and I'll tell you one one that is pretty cool. Sim Tower which later thanks the one way you'd literally just build a tower and different things on each floor, isn't it? Yeah, but it's so cool cuz you get the build shops and everyone moans all the residences moan about the shops being too loud and you can put big theaters in there and your idea is to get to level 100 and that you put like a wedding chapel on the top and you had expressed lift. It was so good. I mean you can meet nakatomi Plaza. Yes. Yeah and you can even Name the characters so you could actually have him and shelter that came out. It kind of looks like that. It was quite fun actually instead of going down you go up your WhatApp. Yeah. It doesn't show does not bad actually. Yeah. Yeah, so right off. Okay, but yeah, it took you ten about like car mechanic simulator earlier. There's tank mechanic simulator. There's airplane mechanic simulator and one I'm I'm interested in picking up is also is cooking simulator. Okay. Will it make you a better cook. I'm already a great cook right Chey face. So I'm not be funny. The timer went into the tank simulator. I'm ready to take on the world. You know you can you give me a showman outside and yeah be squeaky-clean by the time you do World of Warships as well when we got that through can't remember might have done World of Warships. Am pretty sure you just ships you want a crossover. Then you you want to import your tank from tanked simulator that you've just built into World of Tanks and see how it fares in a battle. Don't you off then fix it and then fix it when it has not good crossover that dreams are made of but like cooking simulator. It does log. Quite good fun though, cuz you basically you get instructions on how to cook a dish and then you have to go and get the ingredients. Right and you come back and you cook the ingredients for the specified amount of time and temperature on the instructions. And then once you cooked it, you play iHeart right? And then you give it to the customers. So I took like a pretty scared. So you have to get knife and fork can actually virtually eat it as well. I mean you can do I suppose if you aren't over well start dating Sim we did in ejects off the table manners. He I'm just gonna put I'm just gonna put out there. My date started Rocky I came over for Matt you did it was very impressed. It was the two plates of brownies that I ordered by accident. That's what did it did it one over. Yeah are set the table on fire but I put the fire out. I think what it was that she was impressed. By the way that I was able to recover from an emergency situation and not lose my call. Yeah, cuz you know, I think I mean I poured the wine fantastically have you not seen table manners j o need to see it. Basically, it's basically Surgeon Simulator where you only control one hand, but you have to perform like you have to like pour wine and you know, and and then she asks for some food and you've got like four Q up and feeds to our and stuff like this. It was just yeah, it's funny. If it was fun. It was you know, just don't set a table on fire simple as that. I will look into that game cuz that sounds like a pig. Is is super fun? You know, I'm trying to think well the simulator games there are that I've I've played there's there's train station renovated Renovators simulator like home. 00:50:08 - 00:55:04 Oh, yeah, that's nice difficult thing. Yeah. The thing is that one appeals to my day job cuz I'm a building surveyor on Railway stations. Yeah, so you have an advantage I feel in a gamer. So yeah. Also, there's there's also called you talk about house flipper is actually an apocalypse DLC for it. We're using, do your like you do your air raid shelters and stuff like that. Okay, that could be better and maybe I mean it depends if you've got a time limit before the bombs go off. Yeah, it would be really cool right choice is Anna now, this is purely hypothetical but having that kind of game but you've got go out and and say you've the air raid sirens going off. You've got ten minutes you've got ransacked as much stuff as you can write home. And then you get it all back to your your shelter close the door if if you get back in time close the door and then like obviously the bombs go off but then it gives you a statistic of how many like how long you survived former host bombs dropped or potentially you can survive long enough to go out on a second Venture, you know Paul out. But like inserting it in the future, you could dash out during all the chaos again and things like that is a documentary on them. Netflix is just like that where they get the people the family or whatever and they want to do less survival skills. Then they rate them how long they would have survived would they run out of food or water and all that? I have my teacher had us take I would be fantastic. That's a better idea. Jason thinking of some of the quirkier ones if any of you played job simulator. Yes. Have you seen that is dead? Yeah the VR detaining. Yes. I think I think I played it hasn't released holiday simulator. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So the principal wood job simulator is it's in a time after mankind has died and people have read our, you know our history to work out what we got up to and try to recreate the jobs cuz they don't have jobs in A few checks, they're lucky. It's like a museum, isn't it? Yeah. So you're in an office for one of them you have to do stuff like burn a CD and they assume that means you have to put a CD into a toaster and things like that. So you almost have to decipher the weird versions of what they think events were. Yeah, it's quite entertaining. It's it's it's very entertaining. It's it's goofy. But actually he's a clever if you like. Yes. Yes. I mean, I also love Theme Hospital and obviously later on two Point Hospital, you know, they're just brilliant brilliant games. Yeah again, they they do take some skill. You know, it's the management Sim isn't it? You still have to you've got a budget and you've got certain things, you know certain objectives and stuff so they are silly but I think that's the thing. Is that a lot of the games. You just want to be a fun. And a lot of the the Sim games that you can play out. There aren't always as fun as they could be. But it's all dependent on the person playing it like me for me when I play trains him on Thursday. I'm probably going to really enjoy it because of where I work and what I work in however, it's a very nice game and I can appreciate that. You know, some people might rather just pull teeth. You know and that's that's fine. But I think you might have felt a little bit like dominoes play Crusader Kings 2 yesterday. I did not enjoy watching that or I enjoyed the music more faith. I love that game. I put it just super music. Just chill chill in a body. Like it's like a lot more tour when it yeah. It's about 1,000 see dramatic for you. You see this person running on the spot pretty much but I I love that and I've played it now for nearly sixty hours with you know, I know I thought was a preview. So now the game is fully out who knows sky's the limit is a little across the board as well. You know. Yeah it is. Yeah moving the chat last question then before we wrap it up, what about VR steam game? So obviously you've mentioned the job simulator and a holiday simulator wage. Georgia simulator, you know, I mean those three are it got simulator in the name, but they're not really Sim based games, you know life is exactly what my job says in the name is in they must be right. Obviously, you can play games like a set O course project cars 2 not 3 a.m. 00:55:04 - 01:00:10 It's not simply Valley one. What's the Raleigh? We don't we'll Valley championship for someone on PC to it is good. Is it is it really, you know, you can place these games in VR if you want either on the wheel or on the iPad if you for fishing simulator, yeah not humans back that was quite fun. That was VR off and I learn a lot about fishing because I've never done it before and it was to be fair once you get into it and into what the game is trying to portray to you. That was a pretty fun little game. Yep. Do you think you need to have an open mind with a lot of games? You know, if they my favourites Envy are based game Walking Dead Saints vs Saints and Sinners ROM didn't Simulator game, you know, it's obvious real, isn't it? Surely zombie apocalypse real as long as it's not based on the TV show. You're fine based on based. I think I was kind of a bit of a separate entity, but it was more cell-shaded based on The Telltale style cuz that's more into the comic World which was off. I'll let preciate on me. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean same based VR games. There's they're few and far between yeah. I think I'm going to have played off GT Sport. Yeah, that's the only one I think I've tried on Via definitely gave me the arcade Club withstood to yes. But yeah Travis. You didn't you didn't getting can you play Flight Simulator in VR? I mean, I can play Flight Sim. Yeah, I play whenever I want know about something that apparently they're working on. Okay, cuz I'll be pretty immersive cuz again the detail and the the graphics and stuff in that if they can achieve that in VR that would be nearly scream everytime. I take off and start ditching into the ground just supposed to pull up right I do and then the last fall off and everything else is it's like one of those comedy moments where he comes in to land. He's like Again, wait we were going to do knocked over Flowers. You can do Die Hard 2 in facing can no one actually one flight one sim game in VR is the one that you attend the spot checks where you walk out on the plank. The other one I did the other day and literally have accidentally thought it was I think what got me though was when they actually did they went the extra mile cuz obviously they put a proper plank on the floor, but they also had a latte with a fan. So when the doors opened you then crank the fan off and you felt the wind you had the Sounds in your ears anyway and the virtual reality. But yeah when I walked along I did say to myself like I'm like two inches off the carpet. I'm two inches off the carpet and literally when she got the box in the wall coffee as like my life now, I woke up. I woke up. I don't think so. But that was that was prefer something else and when you hit the floor, although obviously the screen just goes white are still you felt your body still dropping off even though you were moving. It was nuts. Yeah. So that's the thing. That's the thing. That's great about VR is even though it's not always, you know, the the most wage Graphically impressive experience maybe the actual experiences are usually very very immersive. Yeah, even when when you first get an Oculus off you do fast contact. I think they call it and it's quite cartoony little robot that sort of like Wally helping you out but it feels amazing, you know, and that's your first experience and I'll grab things and I said you see a screenshot that you think that's a nice 360 game. Yeah minutes there in your eyes. It's like he's incredible Health get home. DVR can be sufficient. It really does suck you into what you do? Yeah. That's it. My my favorite VR game is probably super hot VR. I didn't try that. My kids tried that and loved it. It's one really amazed with time or something and stops. Yeah, and it is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant invite. You literally feel like John Wick. Yeah, I need to go back to Morgantown said there was one moment where he was looking around laughing at something and then she turned around there was a bullet Frozen in Time literally right by it between his eyes and ears disorder it yeah. Yeah. Yeah is is a fantastic VR game really really good but going it's five past ten years that time. This is a bad time. This is the end of the TC podcast, but it does give us enough time to announce that in September. 01:00:10 - 01:05:18 We took him back TC take over if you didn't see the stream yesterday from stew pot TC takeover has returned and you know, you will be seeing me off. Eat many members of the TC team at different points. I also feel that Jason might be Dabbling, shall we say I saw his dabbling earlier? Maybe we might see him drop his streaming ball into the black bag of streaming. This is Gary. Let's get a bit whatever, you know, yeah. Yeah, and yes, but we do also have big announcement tomorrow that unfortunately not really allowed to talk about but it does involve a toss-up coming digital gaming event. It's not right. That's right for one second or third to be device. No, I actually don't have a wraith drink with my grief but it's the sour apple. That's awful. Nice France is very tasty. It's might be my favorite one so far. I didn't think I would like it but it is actually it's a grower. It's got to be cold though. It's gotta be cold place. Decently Cold Stone Summit discount for an ice in the code thumb up the check out for a nice 10% discount or alternatively if you want to get a free Shaker with that top of page put in TC Shake. Don't you know? But yeah, we got some easy takeover has returned to your screens. I can try and keep it going next week Crusader Kings 2 is my game. My jam Jam I buy decent Jay is booked in for the Sunday morning slot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah going to be a game I've mentioned on here before I'm thinking about right tactics, very nice, which is a fun little game that I'll be I'll play on the PC. It's it's one we mentioned before cuz it's one I double on my mobile but it's all cross playing cross progression and things which is nice thing. I'm showing that off this cuz I keep mentioning here on the podcast. But Jason, obviously we don't know what Jason will play if and when he decides that he's going to press that live button. Yeah, I'm not sure yet. I'm still I'm still playing Call of Duty to be honest, you know what time they chase, you know should do right see you later see a thieves downloaded on Game Pass and then we can get a nice little party going how you can be the host streamer practically dead. Yeah invite we won't invite are cuz bad things happen when she plays the thieves. Yeah actually attacked that gets destroyed. Yeah, I guess I thought he doesn't check. It wasn't even her was Claude. I could she got fed up with you stealing everything. I think a steal anything honest wage. But yeah, it's it's it's going to be a good good month of September at that obviously all of the Nvidia stuff coming out. That's nice. Great news, we've got some good reviews coming out on the site as well some great opinion pieces coming from J as well. So, you know, obviously keep your eyes on the site keep your eyes off social media and get involved. You know, if you see us around just just say hey, how you doing? Not a creepy way. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that. It's down the street. Does that program a way? Yeah, and I and I darling you're right lovely lovely tee shirt. You're wearing home to see my rabbit headphones really accentuate your ears, mate. You can't see him as a point good. It's going pretty well covers. Mm. Yeah. Well, I mean you said you liked my my Springer spring or summer. He's at the end of the the recently recorded jabhi. So I just thought I'd do another one did not work. Give me a nightmare I can put in the disk. So I'm trying to find jobs levels are you know, it's it's a good thing, but we will be back next week. I think we've already got our subject for next week as well. Yeah, what it is. I can Enlighten us. You want to know now I might as well just easy. We were thinking about talking about black compatibility. That was the one I knew it was something like two doors down exactly when when moving to an IRC chat room as well instead of discussion Jason's law. 01:05:20 - 01:06:10 Yeah meow meow meow, but I miss them messenger G's on that bombshell. Just call me Dick Clark's and all that bombshell and we're going to let you go. We're going to go. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Thanks for joining in we are off to play some Siege now with possibly off stream just as a little bit of a as a bit of a giggle really so we will see you next Tuesday live and hopefully this will go out on the Of the podcasting areas within the next few days and obviously stay tuned on social media for our announcements and everything that's coming up. It's going to be an exciting month and Thursday. It's going to be awesome. So anyway, take care and we'll speak to you soon.